Linus was right. - ECC Memory Explained

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M. B.
M. B. 18 orë më parë
I'm gonna trying ecc. Fusion 360 and Inventor crashes at daily base. Could it be so instability in software? Or is it memory instability? Any advising or suggestions about it?
DataLog
DataLog 3 ditë më parë
Cosmic rays are usually the reason. They are unstoppable and unpredictable and pack a ton of energy.
Scratchy Nougat
Scratchy Nougat 6 ditë më parë
8:00 - me trying to run something be like
Mittke88
Mittke88 8 ditë më parë
Just buy Sennheiser HD 600. Thank me later.
Milosz Ostrow
Milosz Ostrow 9 ditë më parë
ECC memory should have been implemented on personal computers by the late 1980s. It would have made microcomputing a couple of orders of magnitude more reliable, but only slightly more expensive.
Antonio Barbosa
Antonio Barbosa 11 ditë më parë
ECC is just for stability and reliability I love it. I have a Xeon workstation with ECC and wouldn't want it any other way. It is good to know that AMD allows it... it is great to know actually :)
Diconica Bastion
Diconica Bastion 11 ditë më parë
ECC "can" be about 2% slower. Also given you get about 1 correction every 14 to 40 hours per gigabit of dram the odds of it happening in that crucial spot that causes a system crash or anything else important is slim to none. I'm not saying it isn't important just that for most people it probably isn't going to be noticeable
Teliko Freedman
Teliko Freedman 13 ditë më parë
8:45 "Thanks Linnus!" Wait that's how you pronounce your name? I always read it like Lai-nus.
ArceusPlaysGames
ArceusPlaysGames 13 ditë më parë
Praise AMD
Prof.Haterade
Prof.Haterade 15 ditë më parë
remember when ECC was cheaper than reg ram? ahh, the past times when buying computer components wasnt the price of a car.. those were the days
Gork Skoal
Gork Skoal 15 ditë më parë
lol that has to be one weird sentence. Linus is was right about Linus being right. Ok so does that meen the Dude talks like the Rock? oh right one is the Linux guy the other is..ok so kind of the Linux guy. hmm Linus BreaksStuff vs Linus ProgramsStuff. their we go.
Michael N/A
Michael N/A 18 ditë më parë
THANKS LINUS!!!! adjusting accordingly.
SC0RePIO
SC0RePIO 18 ditë më parë
YES cosmic rays are bad - both for living biology & other electrically driven processes like computing.
What
What 19 ditë më parë
Did anyone else see the reflection in the 2080?
Karan Singh
Karan Singh 19 ditë më parë
8:55 are those rocks from Luke's pc?
Socialie plate
Socialie plate 19 ditë më parë
yo, LTT talking about their father
kebien6020
kebien6020 20 ditë më parë
1:48 [CC] parody data (not auto-generated) I mean. You can kind of bend the meaning of parody to make this work. But you probably meant parity.
Luc Timmerman
Luc Timmerman 20 ditë më parë
Clickbait: titling your video after a famous person who you anecdote in the title
Glenn Roundy
Glenn Roundy 20 ditë më parë
I would purchase ECC memory for my gaming rig if it could reach speeds of 3600mhz to 4000
SCALITY
SCALITY 22 ditë më parë
In the beginning, ECC was standard.
Matthew Suffidy
Matthew Suffidy 23 ditë më parë
Too bad they oc'd the cpu so it is blowing the memory to Swiss cheese anyway.
LAB Johnson
LAB Johnson 23 ditë më parë
Linus propaganda
djd14d
djd14d 24 ditë më parë
I dont appreciate that you are trashing richard stallman and the entire gnu community, including me by attributing all our work to linus who only made the kernel. Please call it what it is, Gnu/linux
Jeronimo Torres
Jeronimo Torres 24 ditë më parë
The problem of ecc is the price. I have a Intel Server and a amd gaming rig. The memory of the server is double the price of the memory of my gaming rig.
Kornolex
Kornolex 25 ditë më parë
Yes.. Torvalds was making a point about re-inventing the wheel in a shape of a rectangle just for the monetization.. We see this trend everywhere... people fall short, so they dig a hole for you to climb out of... of course they have the ladder..for a modest "fee". This is gain trough prohibiting the human development. Essentially anti-human behavior.
Kornolex
Kornolex 25 ditë më parë
One could argue that facing an obstacle make us engage more.. but thats just throwing canes between the spokes so you can sell a bandage.
Michael Lenczewski
Michael Lenczewski 26 ditë më parë
Two of my three fav. Famous Linuses. Good video!
TheVirtualiser
TheVirtualiser 27 ditë më parë
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Inspirationfree
Inspirationfree 27 ditë më parë
I’ve been building machines with RAID 0+1 and ECC since 2002. Simply because I ran my CPU to render 3D art
Hexa
Hexa 28 ditë më parë
"Linus was right" and "RMS was right" are slowly becoming household names/phrases.
Valentin Kozin
Valentin Kozin 29 ditë më parë
When I was freelancing doing videos the render crashed so many times because the memory overheating (had to put an extra cooler for memory itself). Then I moved to the new platform with tons of ECC memory... and stoped making videos at all! :(
Wupadupa
Wupadupa Muaj më parë
wait so facebook doesn't have gamers backs?
xxxblackvenomxxx
xxxblackvenomxxx Muaj më parë
ECC.. well, it's more expensive and doesnt only protects so much against failure. it *can* still happen, although at a much reduced rate. for gaming rigs it doesnt really pay. still, one should be able to use it, if he needs it. there's no use to have to go to workstation/server platforms.
GatoEpico
GatoEpico Muaj më parë
i heard hamming code saved space tech all the time , a little mistake and things can be destroyed , get lost in space or if tripulated by people they could have died. Im learning about it in the uni and keep failing the examns of it all the time.
mlslfit138
mlslfit138 Muaj më parë
Warning! I installed one of these modules (followed Linus's link) into my Asrock x570 steel legend (yes it has explicit support), and... it kind of worked. It was giving correctable and eventually uncorrectable errors (so yes, ECC was in fact working) until I bumped the voltage to 1.3v. It survived all torture tests after that at the default speed (3200mhz). Any attempt to increase the frequency resulted in a crash, so it operates right at the edge of tolerance. But, all was not well. The only problem that I'm having with this module installed is that it frequently refuses to reboot. Booting, and shutting down works fine, but rebooting often fails. I tried lowering the freqs to 2666, and still the problem persists. Bad module? I just asked newegg for a return-refund. :(
Bert Visscher
Bert Visscher Muaj më parë
1:03 Do they finally have a Linux version?
Alpheus Madsen
Alpheus Madsen Muaj më parë
I thought this was going to be about NVidia, which generated the birdie that illustrated the video. (Linus Torvolds was right about that, too!)
filip_boucek
filip_boucek Muaj më parë
i need that cpu pillow
Smart Tech Muhamad Shokry
Smart Tech Muhamad Shokry Muaj më parë
Well done 👍
dabartos
dabartos Muaj më parë
this is outrageous! As a gamer I have to eat doritos now? I like potato chips, I don't want to switch
Joost
Joost Muaj më parë
So I guess ECC will come with RGB soon
Budman
Budman Muaj më parë
I thought that was sam hyde in the thumbnail lmao
8yter
8yter Muaj më parë
Intel cut ECC support for consumer i3 and Pentium Gold since the 10th gen. They want me buying the Xeon W-1250, but I need a lower power CPU and the fun fact: The W-12xx are hard to get. So how can I send my money to Intel if they don't want it?
ruediix
ruediix Muaj më parë
Linus Torvalds "Charming", ROFL. I'm a Linux nerd and I think Linus Torvalds can be a bit blunt sometimes to put it lightly. Linus Torvalds went with the Monolithic kernel for Linux to prove a point. That's how "Charming" he is.
Eric Lopez
Eric Lopez Muaj më parë
I got ECC RAM in my work computer and dual core xeon. I love my work computer! I believe my work machine is RDIMM
Tristan Draper
Tristan Draper Muaj më parë
So give it about 6 months before AMD's ECC can out perform non-ECC got it
joel gilbert
joel gilbert Muaj më parë
i can almost hear the word glasswire when he says "sponsor"
Paul S
Paul S Muaj më parë
Some day soon (I hope) Linus, you'll come over from the dark side and focus more on the OS that your namesake has built for you :-D
ArtisChronicles
ArtisChronicles Muaj më parë
I've had memory crashes that could've been avoided with ECC lol
Default
Default Muaj më parë
hey linus ecc is actualy cheaper and a lot in ddr3 on aliexpress if you can bare the 1month delivery of course, and memory crashes come on... a ddr4 memory crash for any of us? a pc crash caused by ddr4 memory is equaly likely than a fridge falling from the sky at your car at 1.december 2035, ecc is great for editors of big projects or for servers but for gamers? nah dont bather buying it it wont make a difference
Photodeus
Photodeus Muaj më parë
My next system is gonna be any decently priced CPU+Mobo that supports ECC. No matter the cost... well, hopefully at not too much extra cost.
ThexWITCHxMaster
ThexWITCHxMaster Muaj më parë
If I want to overclock my memory I just cut on XMP and call it a day.
ThexWITCHxMaster
ThexWITCHxMaster Muaj më parë
3:06. Its me 😮...
Free Lance Russian Shill
Free Lance Russian Shill Muaj më parë
Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “ALnets is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “ALnets is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "music" "dj" "love" "rap" rapmusic" "rapper"
*Hérétic
*Hérétic Muaj më parë
losing a few fps ... oh not ready for that.
rommel pangilinan
rommel pangilinan Muaj më parë
thanks man
Erik Viborg
Erik Viborg Muaj më parë
Love the selfie reflection in the 2080 super :D
Heinrich Kreuser
Heinrich Kreuser Muaj më parë
09:00 but do they work on Linux?
Yeetor Yeetor
Yeetor Yeetor Muaj më parë
This is why I don’t watch Linus much anymore, it feels like he just bashes on Intel in most of his videos. Now I understand AMD makes good products but, it get annoying hearing Intel succ AMD goog every vid
HEAVY UNIT NOOB
HEAVY UNIT NOOB Muaj më parë
5:37 That reflection is good
Doki Bubó
Doki Bubó Muaj më parë
nvidia fucked with everybody.hail to amd!
ronsum
ronsum Muaj më parë
1:48 "Parody data" in CC, lol
martixy
martixy Muaj më parë
"Parody data", what? Who does these subtitles, and how do you fix them?
Julian Vincent
Julian Vincent Muaj më parë
The furry furtive oven peroperatively number because wasp incidentally crash after a absorbing hub. old, momentous napkin
Antidote Harry
Antidote Harry Muaj më parë
Beard, beenie and a hoodie, are you a drug addict, linus?
Rider0fBuffalo
Rider0fBuffalo Muaj më parë
Don't buy a car that has a drive computer without ecc.
James Wilson
James Wilson Muaj më parë
If you're hosting a game like ark even in a non-dedicated session this can reduce crashes.
Arno nümuss
Arno nümuss Muaj më parë
I'm running my R5 3600 with 64GB of micron single rank ecc ram. One more advantage to the stability is, that it runs 3200Mt/s at 1.2V and stays perfectly cool without the need for heat spreaders. The standard voltage also has the advantage, that it runs the 3200Mt/s stock without having to use D.O.C.P. . And it might be more gentle to the cpu's memory controller.
WaterSpecteclz
WaterSpecteclz Muaj më parë
Wait Wait Wait hol' up. is that a crunchyroll hat?
majstealth
majstealth Muaj më parë
128gb of ram, pffff i am working on a server right now, i want to adress, quite cheap one still, that has also 128gb of ram, but still 20 slots empty, and it could also take another cpu too...
logan holmberg
logan holmberg Muaj më parë
ECC is not worth the price. Especially in Workstations. I'm managing 20 CAD stations in my workplace I switched out from ECC to regular PC memory and none of my users notice a difference in performance or crashes. And my tracking proves this out over the past 8 years. Save the money and put it to something else (another stick of ram maybe?) or get a thumbs up from your boss for saving a few hundred bucks on the new workstations you purchased under budget.
ANIS BENZ
ANIS BENZ Muaj më parë
Linus Torvalds video in Linus Tech Tips channel lmao
Aaron SemlerPDX
Aaron SemlerPDX Muaj më parë
8:36 "But if you want the utmost instability..." haha!
Anik Samiur Rahman
Anik Samiur Rahman Muaj më parë
Thanks, Linus! And Linus Torvald! I didn't even know about ECC b4!
Mariusz Podlesny
Mariusz Podlesny Muaj më parë
1:47 "parody data" ?!? Eeee... What? :) I think that might be "parity data". "Parody" is current overall supply situation...
Jani Palonen
Jani Palonen Muaj më parë
Anyone who has edited IPB h264 4k or any other highly compressed codec in premiere knows the quality of life that ECC brings.
Mike Bruzzone
Mike Bruzzone Muaj më parë
mb
TheBrazilRules
TheBrazilRules Muaj më parë
I was watching this whole video thinking "Who cares?"
Lucas Cunha Rocha
Lucas Cunha Rocha Muaj më parë
of fucking course it was pannenkoek who discovered it...
Najd Al-Oqaili
Najd Al-Oqaili Muaj më parë
Why ECC ram have better performance and faster than the one without ECC?
Pierre C
Pierre C Muaj më parë
The fact that there is no distinction between executable code and data means that your program could jump at the wrong address and crash the system by jumping just about anywhere.
Jeremy Pegan
Jeremy Pegan Muaj më parë
Inverted bits are the worst. Ask Bruce Jenner.
corason live
corason live Muaj më parë
#FUNVIDIA !!!
Pyrolight
Pyrolight Muaj më parë
50 bucks more? nooooooooooooooooope waste of money.
Alex K.
Alex K. Muaj më parë
Linus Torvalds is one of my tech heroes.
NewCalipso Delavara
NewCalipso Delavara Muaj më parë
Linus is right that Linus was right.
Big Cazza
Big Cazza Muaj më parë
me running tREFI at 65535 and tRFC at 220 ecc who?
lerlerler1
lerlerler1 Muaj më parë
On average pc this kind of errors happen once a three years man.
A true meme master
A true meme master Muaj më parë
Since i use Linux this ecc memory compatibility will be useful for compiling code without ending up with a failed binary executable
vinny
vinny Muaj më parë
will it really... i mean it probably would like twice in your life but i think you've got some bigger problems if all your code is resulting in a failed executable lol
iPan Zer0
iPan Zer0 Muaj më parë
Well everyone is into building their own server now adays, its only logical to make ecc available to every device.
Joe Craft
Joe Craft Muaj më parë
I run a minecraft server off my computer. Wishing for better single thread cpu, Or Minecraft becoming multi thread. I allocate about 10 of my 16 gb of ram(not a big server). If my ram is not working properly, I find out really quickly.
tom joe
tom joe Muaj më parë
The chemical step-son hemodynamically trace because bankbook technologically talk onto a acid children. few fierce, literate thomas
coladict
coladict Muaj më parë
Do memory errors ever happen if the stick is not defective?
Nicholas Gawler-Collins
Nicholas Gawler-Collins Muaj më parë
I thought Linus was talking about himself.
arsssis
arsssis Muaj më parë
“Utmost instability, thanks AMD” wow.... slip of the tongue there? Must have been lost in the post...
Duane Locsin
Duane Locsin Muaj më parë
Intels on a roll...down the hill.
Mason Reppeto
Mason Reppeto Muaj më parë
I wanted to upgrade from a i-5 quad to an i-7 but the new LGA 1151 slot isn't compatible with the old one. so the new CPU won't work on the old motherboard xd. I ended up giving my pc to my uncle cause his was dying and built myself a solid rig with a Ryzen 7 2700X and a RX 5500 XT graphics card along with 16gb of ram. Man 8GB cards have gotten cheap, I got the card for 200 bucks at best buy. It ain't the best card but it performed pretty decently. never buying intel again lol.
James Gyoke
James Gyoke Muaj më parë
wtf is he talking about
SR IRL
SR IRL Muaj më parë
Hey Linus, can you sell me a 3090? worth a shot
larut mrs
larut mrs Muaj më parë
why is no one talking about the fact that they decreased the price tag of the cpu pillow form 59 to 20 usd? they heard us 5:53
Keana Cabrera
Keana Cabrera Muaj më parë
The hulking cherries concordingly gaze because shadow muhly vanish round a dreary shell. symptomatic, nervous low
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